Thanks Red, I guess old QB Roberts really had a chip on his shoulder, he may also go to Tampa Bay next season, lol. Quite a result to close out the 4.5 game version, if 4.6 is close to the Beta version that we've been playing in MFN 1, it will be quite a difference, Ive enjoyed playing "Bleeding Beta", as it reduces the advantage of play overuse and other areas of the game that have received a lot of debate and complaint. If you havnt played it yet, there are teams available in MFN 1, not a bad idea to get exposed to it before the next draft. Another suggestion would be to look at the league player stats for MFN 1 or any league playing Beta (Legends is another one that I have a team in). Did not expect the level of offense performance that the Dozers did in the playoffs, especially the CC and LC games, best that Ive had from over 70 LC/CC teams that Ive had to date.