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Re: Billy and GrandadB

By Nyses12u
11/07/2021 3:48 pm
To be honest I wouldn't produce the teams I do if it wasn't for Grandad he gave me a blueprint and I have adapted. The reason I left wasn't the actual issue of the "Log In". We've all asked Billy to compete realistically ( no knock on Billy) He's been through "SEVERAL" coaches with the same result and let's be honest it's become a gimme game and everyone seemed ok with that. However as a league in whole the more competitive teams the more worth while each win is. We've allowed Billy ( since I've been here) Trade his picks to owners he likes then proceed to tank the rest of the season yet we allowed it to continue. I had no issue with the login switch needed to be done if we weren't going to punish Billy for lack of effort ( No knock on the Commish or Billy) especially if he's only trading prime picks with his favorite owners kinda handicaps the competitiveness. I left because it created a fire storm that with every game Billy could win it'd be the only topic. I stayed in the league because of the chat (Although I was ignored a great deal) That has turned into just mud slinging and apologizing just take a vote on the punishment and move on seemed to work with "DeflateGate" why not here? Everyone has spoken how they feel so get back to football. I noticed a lot of ripping on Grandad however it was a 50/50 incident I think the want to win without putting in the actual work should be equally addressed

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By GrandadB
11/07/2021 4:06 pm
kursetheday wrote:
I do not agree with you. Please keep wasting your time.


Same to you

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By kursetheday
11/07/2021 4:16 pm
Ok, I’m letting it go. Seriously.

I told norm as much but it bothered me when others started leaving.

Best of luck moving forward.

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By chaospika
11/07/2021 11:26 pm
GrandadB wrote:
kursetheday wrote:
So we have lost mlowe and nyses over this debacle.

So that’s awesome…



Nyses is a close friend, he didnt leave as a result of my helping Billy. And to "clear the air", what I did for Billy was no different in effect than if I had sent him explicit instructions, written in detail. It was pre-season, and I didnt think anyone would get upset about my helping to correct what I viewed as a major wrong that was overlooked, in my opinion. So, Ive learned from it, and wont do a time-saving measure like that again, but there's no difference in terms of the effect and result. There are several in this league and in many others that I have given detailed roster reviews, advice, and suggestions on play selection, player attributes, rules, all aspects of the game. I don't do that out of ego or thinking Im better than anyone else. I spent a lot of years coaching, from the time I was 14 coaching the 5th & 6th grade flag teams. Coaching football is in my blood and is why I reach out to those who are involved, posting in the league forum, and struggling. Am also sorry that mlowe quit, he is another that I have sent advice to previously, guess that was forgotten.


Not really...if you really wanted to help billy, you could've just help him with the blueprint to a successful gameplan. What you did was log in and do everyday for him. Now since you said you have been coaching since you were 14 and is in your blood per say...if this was IRL, are you going to hand the opposing coach your gameplan? OR would you, I don't know, like other coaches, just discuss strategy with each other and let the other coach figure it out.

The league isn't mad that you were "trying to help" billy. The league is mad at the way you proceeded and then proceeded to double down on it.

An analogy to what you did is basically...a kid is struggling in school, you are one of the smarter kids in school. instead of tutoring the kid and helping the struggling kid learn, you basically said, screw it, i'll do your homework, i'll take your tests.

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By billyvan1989
11/07/2021 11:45 pm
actually he not doing it everyday at all. that is false.

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By norm - League Admin
11/07/2021 11:46 pm
And then when caught, say “oh well had I tutored him, Billy would have gotten 100% on the test anyways so me doing the homework and tests for him still achieved the same result. Trust me I’m a natural born tutor! So I really didn’t do anything but help Billy get to the same place he would have anyways. I’ve done this so many times, I know.”
Last edited at 11/07/2021 11:47 pm

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By billyvan1989
11/07/2021 11:48 pm
lol you think I am smart enough to reach your level norm? how many season i play against you that i use the same strategy, predictable game plan all pass 100 percent, and other game selections with a team of hardcore wrs and qb. It is not until i look at GDB game planning, playbook selection, and setting up a good formation, while he teaching me how to select a good play formation that all my old game style will not work in this new version 4.6.
Last edited at 11/07/2021 11:50 pm

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By Waitwut
11/08/2021 6:49 am
You chose to do that Billy, the game would not even automated a game plans to be that basic.

Here it is again though GDB and Billy trying to excuse it all away. Good luck with the league idiot cheats. This isn't social, this is a circus.

And I'm gone.

Re: Billy and GrandadB

By Smirt211
11/08/2021 5:24 pm
I don't know how Norm puts up with Billy. From what I've seen he doesn't listen to you and taunts you with his responses on his plans to go win-less or disrupt the league with these threads.

But, hey, what do I know. I got kicked out of a league today for literally writing
    *smiles*
    (yep, that's it - one word) when I beat down an opponent who booted me from his league before I even played a game, broke any rules or did anything wrong. I, however, did do a long strategy set up and wasted my time so yeah he deserved that smile.

    That log-in = no good. Billy shouldn't be advanced like that. He doesn't try. He wants to chatter and do chaos.

    GDB and I we're killer Great White sharks and competitive. Why bring up someone who doesn't have that fight to get better himself and compete.

    Log-in overall = no good, in aiding any one. :(
    Last edited at 11/08/2021 5:27 pm

    Re: Billy and GrandadB

    By norm - League Admin
    11/08/2021 7:28 pm
    I put up with everyone because I just want people to play fair and have fun. Billy can say anything he wants about me and I don't care. Of course, as we've seen billy might rub many people the wrong way and we've had people quit because of it. I'm not choosing billy over the others. Rather, just trying to stay in the middle and keep things running. Hopefully, we can all remain committed to playing fair and being respectful to one another. Wishing everyone the best of luck as we embark on the 2037 season.