Oh I got the full effect. I lined up my 94 speed CB at MLB and blew up a bunch of running plays and stalled several drives before they could get started. Just imagine how good my defense will be once everyone is elite speed! My trash defense might become elite with one simple trick!

Note the image posted shows no RB at TE. Which is fine, but I feel like it was stated multiple ways - you can, you can’t - but I’ve read solely as you can’t.

Everything is changing on timelines out of our control anyways so the sooner the better as it goes for moguls to apply the rules.

Please don’t start a new league. Allocation drafts are the worse.

Also, thank you everyone.

I appreciate this league, you all. Wouldn’t want to play or explore this in any other league on MFN.

I still would like to see TE/FB conversions to OL. Ray Pittman https://moguls.myfootballnow.com/player/9967 arguably the best C is history was a TE conversion

Thank you to those who have provided feedback, including the many of you who has spoken privately about this. Taken everything as a whole, this is where I see things headed and what I am now leaning toward. If there isn't any objection I will finalize by October 31. But the compromise starts like this. For now, because enforceability is impossible given that the old interface still exists, you can still do whatever you want in terms of positions. Have 14 WRs, 14 CBs, whatever. Change positions however you like, whatever. But you are doing so at your own risk. Once JDB shuts down the old site, which as we know, could happen at any time, that's it, the rules are final. A prudent owner would probably want to start preparing for position requirements, but to be fair to those teams that currently have no chance of complying, you get this (probably) long grace period to adjust your line ups. Given the speed of change JDB has had so far, might not be for awhile and you may get several offseasons to "fix" your team. But, I will note that it appears very very few teams in the league actually do this. Indeed, if we were able to "force" this change on everyone, there may only be one or two teams that couldn't fill a full lineup. Still, to those teams and to those teams that want to emulate them, this is still fair game for now and you have time to adjust your roster.

But for everyone on the new interface, where the position limits apply, and for everyone eventually, I want to propose the following, stricter position limits:

QB -> RB This is a one way move. You can change QBs to RB. Otherwise, QB is QB. Once you change them to RB, they can never go back to QB and they cannot appear on the QB depth chart. You can keep the player as QB and place on RB depth chart if you want to do it that way.
RB -> WR. This encourages RB only. People are concerned about "people will just do 14 RB teams" and "I thought the whole point was to fight against the speed exploit." So it is restrictive, but once you are RB, you cannot change positions other than WR or appear elsewhere on the depth chart. RB playing at receiver on the depth chart will allow you to not have to carry so many RB/WR if you feel like it is constraining your positions. When you do position switch though, you are stuck at WR forever.
FB -> TE/RB/WR. People said FB/TE is fair and common. Also, FB to RB isn't insane. And plus you can fill in your backup RB that way. But given that you can do "two step" position changes, once you allow that, you can basically go to any skill position anyways, so might as well allow all. No FB to OL. I know FB/TE to OL has been a game strategy for a long time. But trying to keep on the scale of realism, that almost never happens in real life. We don't want people to "grow" speed offensive lineman.
TE -> FB/RB/WR - same logic as FB.
OL - all OL. You can play 5 centers. I don't see that as an exploit worth killing. Not at this time at least. I don't even know that it is an exploit.
DE - Can play DE only. No position switch. Allowing position switch just opens up too many can of worms. DE are DE.
DT - > DE. Can play DE or DT. This will make it so that you can cover your DL depth chart with fewer players, but still limit the "all DE" defensive line. You can have an "all DT" defensive line and you can convert your DT to DE to have them slim down. But once you convert, they can't play DT anymore. So you can have DT listed as backup on DE. But not the opposite. This will make DT more valuable - the DT that can backup DE is going to be worth more than before, where you can get any DE and stick them on the DT depth chart.
LB - LB only. You can make them all WLB if you want. That's a small difference not worth managing. I personally keep them at whatever LB position they are.
CB - CB only. Same logic as WR. This includes no CB at S. This is probably the change that affects the most people (including me). Again, you will have plenty of time to position switch them.
S -> CB. People said safety is basically a worthless position in the current state of the game. You either get switched to CB if you are good. Or you have a CB cover that position. So S is marginalized as a position. So adding this restriction makes it a position you have to care about again. I know there will be some saying that "Oh man I don't want to carry so many DBs" because you will need backup safeties now. But, by allowing S to cover CB, you can put your backup safeties at the CB slot as well, so you don't need so many DBs, and also this will make good safeties even more valuable - changing the current roster dynamics.

Let me know what you think. I'll post the proposed matrix in the next post.

Your proposed list looks good to me norm. One question about the draft since we haven't had one since the new UI was introduced. Is there any way to change a rookie's position, or whatever they're created as is what they're stuck at? If I found a 268 pound TE with 94 short snapping skills in the draft pool, I'd definitely want to convert him into a center. Or a 220 pound SLB with 90s in pass coverage potentials should just be turned into a safety. I've been forcing myself to only use the new UI to get used to it, but when you go to the "change position" button on the player card now it usually has their current position as the only option. If there's no way to convert rookies into what you want them to be I'd be skipping that short snapping TE altogether. Just trying to get a handle on things for the future.

The position matrix applies to both the depth chart and position switch. Ideally, I would love it if it were separated, so that we could allow more position switch, but limit the depth chart, but it is not a current option. That means that there will be no way to do the position switch in the manner you described for those positions, under the current proposal (and the current defaults). We had discussed allowing such switches, but some want the simplicity of keeping to the position and forcing position scarcity. That is, limiting those conversions means that it is a lot harder to find a center or a safety.

That said, if there is widespread support, we could add those back in. I will say that people in private have voiced opposition as "not realistic" - no one goes from TE to OL in real life very often. But here are the ones that I've debated as possibilities:

TE -> OL (of course, this would also allow FB to OL, because you can switch FB to TE then TE to OL)
DE -> LB, but not the reverse. A way to use your high speed DEs for something?
LB -> S, but not the reverse. The problem with that is then you can go DE to LB to S in theory. That's why I proposed not having any of that, to avoid the issue.

So those are the three that I would consider and have been debating around in my head. But presently, I would say none to all of those, for simplicity's sake. Shake up your drafts, where you really need to get the "real" safety or "real" center.

Makes sense. Honestly, the real problem is the player generator is so awful that there are never enough players with acceptably high floors for their skills. You end up having to be creative and "make" the players you want to have because they weren't in the pool to begin with.

I feel like that's gonna be the beauty of what's about to come. If there's not enough "good" players for everyone, then the field should be balanced, in theory. I think we can expect situations where one team will have 4 good WRs and have an advantage there. But because they've stacked the WR position, they're weak on the OL and they lose out there. If you think about it, the only real "skill" positions currently are probably QB, OL and maybe WR/DB. The rest of the positions can basically be filled with someone really fast. We'll have to see how it pans out but I think it'll be fun to see how everyone reacts when they're stuck with someone subpar.