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Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By billyvan1989
9/01/2022 9:55 am
Thank you for your lovely criticism and your words. I am very sad that you planning to leave the league. Waitwut, you are my ultimate rival that make me looking forward in battle you and defeat you every season. Again, I don’t mind your words please stay Buddy Waitwut!!

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By Waitwut
9/01/2022 12:39 pm
I hate to hate what you do. You're okay, I'm okay. I just am not humored by it so consistently.

This is a game, I get it. But I hate that I feel so compelled to generally hate what you're doing. Best for me to focus on my team and salute the league with a fair and honorable exit.

This league is great, and the variance has been great. Competition level fine. I just hate what you do in the context of what the purpose is. It is not for me to tell you what to do, or what you are. For that I'm sorry. Think of it as my poor attempt to coach through reverse psychology. Feeble as it was, I should have been wise to understand it would not pierce. So I understand in the end that I cannot control my impulse and have decided what I intend.

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By billyvan1989
9/01/2022 1:00 pm
Come on waitwut. I appreciated your words man. Don’t let others comments bring you down buddy. I know my play style in this game is crazy and lack of sportsmanship however I love your effort and words in an attempted to inspired me to win more games every season. I am very appreciative of it.

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By Bruno77
9/01/2022 5:11 pm
I agree, please stay!

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By ssid_27
9/02/2022 12:40 am
My unsolicited opinion on all of this is.......when this league first started billyvan was doing well. He made it into the Super Bowl first season. Then as the league grew and players got better, as billy traded and traded and passed the ball. Traded his future looking for the QB that would get him back to the Championships. But that hasn't happened. So, instead of not trying to find the ultimate QB and building a good team, he will still hunt by getting draft picks. I guess it's easier to lose if you just say out loud that is your intention. I think the player billy is looking for doesn't exist in the game. A football team can not be carried by one player. It's not basketball or baseball. Football, both Association and American are both Ultimate team games. I hope billy reads this and it makes some kind of sense to him.


Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By mlowe
9/02/2022 8:26 am
Hope you stay Wait. I'm with you.

What other player can get away with blatant cheating and tanking. LITERALLY saying in chat he's trying to lose every game. Any other player would be gone. I'm not trashing norm, I like how he runs the league, and I happen to disagree with billy being able to do this.

But I'll tell you why he gets away with it. Because he's an election winning, girlfriend having, YouTube starring, Army officering son of a gun. That's why. WOOOOOOOOOO!

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By Bruno77
9/02/2022 8:48 am
Oh! Hola!

Darling, you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'till the end of time
So you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?

It's always tease, tease, tease
You're happy when I'm on my knees
One day it's fine and next it's black
So if you want me off your back
Well, come on and let me know
Should I stay or should I go?

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go, there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

This indecision's bugging me (Esta indecisión me molesta)
If you don't want me, set me free (Si no me quieres, librarme)
Exactly whom I'm supposed to be (Dígame que tengo ser)
Don't you know which clothes even fit me? (Sabes que ropa me "quedrá"?)
Come on and let me know (Me tienes que decir)
Should I cool it or should I blow? (Me debo ir o quedarme?)
Split

(Doble! ¿Me frio o lo soplo?)
(Esperda, rrattarrattattaa...)

Should I stay or should I go now? (Yo me enfrío o lo soplo)
Should I stay or should I go now? (Yo me enfrío o lo soplo)
If I go there will be trouble (Si me voy va a haber peligro)
And if I stay it will be double (Si me quedo sera el doble)
So ya gotta let me know (Me tienes que decir)
Should I cool it or should I blow? (Tengo frío por los ojos)
Should I stay or should I go now? (Tengo frío por los ojos)
If I go there will be trouble (Si me voy va haber peligro)
And if I stay it will be double (Si me quedo será el doble)
So ya gotta let me know (Me tienes que decir)
Should I stay or should I go?

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By billyvan1989
9/02/2022 12:06 pm
**** I love how mlowe know me too well.

mlowe wrote:
Hope you stay Wait. I'm with you.

What other player can get away with blatant cheating and tanking. LITERALLY saying in chat he's trying to lose every game. Any other player would be gone. I'm not trashing norm, I like how he runs the league, and I happen to disagree with billy being able to do this.

But I'll tell you why he gets away with it. Because he's an election winning, girlfriend having, YouTube starring, Army officering son of a gun. That's why. WOOOOOOOOOO!

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By norm - League Admin
9/02/2022 2:29 pm
mlowe wrote:
Hope you stay Wait. I'm with you.

What other player can get away with blatant cheating and tanking. LITERALLY saying in chat he's trying to lose every game. Any other player would be gone. I'm not trashing norm, I like how he runs the league, and I happen to disagree with billy being able to do this.

But I'll tell you why he gets away with it. Because he's an election winning, girlfriend having, YouTube starring, Army officering son of a gun. That's why. WOOOOOOOOOO!


I will say this: even though Billy talks about blatant tanking all the time, I have discussed with him in the past and we have seen from the results, that he actually does put forth a "legitimate" team and gameplan every week, for the most part. There was only one time when he put in a WR at QB for the super tank and that was frowned upon heavily. Even though he talks like this all the time about intentionally losing and, worse, saying "oh I'm playing my friend this week, I will let you win," he hasn't actually ever done that. No, all his losing is simply a product of him actually not being very good at this game. That's why he "gets away" with his blatant tanking. If he ever went to the extreme and had no kicker, played WR at QB and did all that stuff, rest assured the hammer would come down on him, but so far, it's been all talk (and general incompetence).

And to those of you who follow the billy story in chat, I think he flamed out of the army, and it's not girlfriend anymore, it's wife!

Re: Please Stay, Waitwut!!

By Waitwut
9/02/2022 2:44 pm
norm wrote:
mlowe wrote:
Hope you stay Wait. I'm with you.

What other player can get away with blatant cheating and tanking. LITERALLY saying in chat he's trying to lose every game. Any other player would be gone. I'm not trashing norm, I like how he runs the league, and I happen to disagree with billy being able to do this.

But I'll tell you why he gets away with it. Because he's an election winning, girlfriend having, YouTube starring, Army officering son of a gun. That's why. WOOOOOOOOOO!


I will say this: even though Billy talks about blatant tanking all the time, I have discussed with him in the past and we have seen from the results, that he actually does put forth a "legitimate" team and gameplan every week, for the most part. There was only one time when he put in a WR at QB for the super tank and that was frowned upon heavily. Even though he talks like this all the time about intentionally losing and, worse, saying "oh I'm playing my friend this week, I will let you win," he hasn't actually ever done that. No, all his losing is simply a product of him actually not being very good at this game. That's why he "gets away" with his blatant tanking. If he ever went to the extreme and had no kicker, played WR at QB and did all that stuff, rest assured the hammer would come down on him, but so far, it's been all talk (and general incompetence).

And to those of you who follow the billy story in chat, I think he flamed out of the army, and it's not girlfriend anymore, it's wife!


True, is wife now.

I agree to the extent that he fields a team of legitimately positioned players. Beyond that, I dont believe he cares to play and do the extra. I do believe he could accidently win more but compounds meaningless decisions, probably mostly to get a rise. Three QBs a year etc.