I don't know the answer to #1. I don't use the new interface yet, so we will see. My guess is no... but I have no idea. But it will not be a long term workaround. Eventually, the computer will edge everyone into compliance.
Regarding #2, limited position switching is still allowed. Please consult the chart above. So you CAN do FB -> RB. Or FB to TE. But you can't do WR to RB. Likewise, you asked about S to LB. That's not allowed anymore. LBs are locked at LB. DBs are locked at DBs and DL are locked at DL. I couldn't think of a way to do it the would cut off the "chain reaction" - that is, if we allowed S to go to LB, and LB to go to DE, then you could convert a safety to a DL in two steps.
Posting again, for reference now that this moved onto the next page:
Re: Out of Position Rules
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IoanBlood
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3/03/2026 6:24 am
I've looked it up in MFN 1. Default is: RB -> FB, WR FB -> RB, TE, WR TE -> FB, WR OL -> OL DL -> DL LB -> LB Secondary -> any Secondary
Edit: WR -> WR. I think this is the default position and also conversion matrix
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Re: Out of Position Rules
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norm
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3/03/2026 11:38 am
Our twist that folks in this league supported was, can't do all DBs, because that devalues safety - you can just use any CB to play S. Likewise, no DE at DT, because DT gets devalued. You could always play DE at DT. I don't know if any of this makes any difference in the long run, but we are trying it out.
Re: Out of Position Rules
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martinwarnett
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3/23/2026 6:00 pm
I'd suggest KH can be any position.
Unless there's some really funky mechanics going on, should be position agnostic.
I'm not a massive fan of the matrix idea full stop, for reasons not going to go into.
In an ideal; position conversion and selecting into depth chart, overrides would be decoupled. Want to change a player from CB to DE due to poor coverage but great pass rushing skills? Knock yourself out, but if his weight isn't within a tight range, can't select him until weight around right level.
Re: Out of Position Rules
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martinwarnett
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3/23/2026 6:00 pm
* duplicate *
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Re: Out of Position Rules
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norm
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3/24/2026 1:37 pm
martinwarnett wrote:
I'd suggest KH can be any position.
Unless there's some really funky mechanics going on, should be position agnostic.
I'm not a massive fan of the matrix idea full stop, for reasons not going to go into.
In an ideal; position conversion and selecting into depth chart, overrides would be decoupled. Want to change a player from CB to DE due to poor coverage but great pass rushing skills? Knock yourself out, but if his weight isn't within a tight range, can't select him until weight around right level.
We can no longer change the position matrix, unless I pay for it. So kick holder is not so important that it is worth paying for the fix at this point. If there is stuff that we as a league deem need fixing, I will pay and fix it, but for now, don't expect to be able to put your TE at kick holder.
I would agree with your assessment that distinguishing between position switch and depth chart manipulation makes sense. Unfortunately, that's a JDB question. Right now, we only have the all or none approach and the league is going to try out the "none" approach to start. So far, the results have been zero back to back champions, since we instituted, so maybe it's working?
Some of these out of position rules do not make sense. A CB is only allowed to be a CB? When both of my FS or SS are hurt, it should be ok to put a backup CB in there. Why is this limited? The same goes for DT and the RE and LE. All three of these should be interchangable. In one league, I have all 3 of my DT hurt, but I cannot sub my backup defensive ends down there. Also, some WR are just horrible recievers, but they might have decent ACC and Max Speed with high ball carry and avoid fumble. Well it would make sense to change their official position to RB and train them there, but we cannot. Why is it like this?
Re: Out of Position Rules
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martinwarnett
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6/09/2026 3:06 am
Leagues have default matrices set up. See MFN-1 for example.
Using CB as an example, since you raised it, gives
CB -> CB SS FS Kick Returner Punt Returner Gunner ST Rusher
League admins, if they have a subscription enabling customization, can change. Looks like it was changed in this league and admin no longer has the ability to change it.
Re: Out of Position Rules
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norm
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6/11/2026 2:47 pm
Hi, answering this question. This was put up for league debate and the conclusion of the league was that CB and WR speed was just too powerful and we wanted to limit that if possible. Also, a segment of the league wanted positions to matter. That is, if CB can play S, basically, you never need a S because you always can play a CB there. So this changes the leagues valuation of players. Now, S becomes more important, because you can use S as a backup CB, but not vice versa. That's the theory at least.
The one issue you raised about injuries is an unknown. If all your safeties get injured, will the CPU put in a CB? That's my guess? But also, you are placing yourself at the mercy of the AI in that situation. So the solution is to carry more than 3 safeties on your roster if you are worried about that. Same with DTs. People were getting high speed DTs by just starting a DE at that slot. So limiting DT to DT cuts that option off. Note - you can play DTs at DE, so again this changes the value proposition. The DT actually matters. The high speed DT, who can also play DE, actually has value. Whereas before, you could just have 5 DEs and everything is covered. Likewise with WR, because there was so much "WR to TE" "WR to RB" "WR to FB" type moves, we elected to limit that. Yes, in real life people will do WR to RB. We chose to sacrifice that to prevent "WR everywhere." In short, we want positions to matter and not teams with just 10 WR. Allowing so much position switching opens the door to that just in a longer way. You could change WR to RB. Then RB to FB. Then RB to TE. So you can have all WR offense. So we limited WR switching and RB switching severely. That way, you need TE/FBs. Again the positions have value. You can't just ignore them and say "I'll just stick a WR there."
That was our logic at least. We did leave open the possibility that this could be a bust and we would have to change the rules. But no one has really complained a lot about it since we implemented. Happy to debate again now that we have had a couple of seasons of this. if people think we should revert to more position changes.