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Re: All In Trades

By Waitwut
11/04/2021 6:26 am
I'm am canceling Billy until he takes ownership of his bad trades and tells GDB to back down on smashing Xero trade.

If we go through all trades the are likely to be more that fit this narrative that are not being given credence.

This stinks. I think the current affair lacks ethic hidden from the wider league. It has no merit when compared against other bad trades that are not gathering this much attention.

Cancel Culture, I choose you!
Last edited at 11/04/2021 6:31 am

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/04/2021 11:40 am
You know waitwut I am not stopping GDB from doing what he believe and justice in this league. everyone have their own belief and how they play this game.

Re: All In Trades

By norm - League Admin
11/04/2021 12:01 pm
OK folks, let's tone things down here.

Let's keep it simple: billy, just confirm that you are running your team and not letting Grandad log in and run the show. Then the story is over. Shadow Dancers should not make wild unsubstantiated accusations.

Billy, if you are letting Grandad control everything, then, yes, the tutoring may have gone too far. It's not tutoring, but more like "Operation Varsity Blues" where you are hiring someone to take the test for you. Personally, based on what I am observing, I don't think that's happening. This still looks like a billy run team. But let's clear the air and put the petty arguments to rest.

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/04/2021 2:41 pm
norm wrote:
OK folks, let's tone things down here.

Let's keep it simple: billy, just confirm that you are running your team and not letting Grandad log in and run the show. Then the story is over. Shadow Dancers should not make wild unsubstantiated accusations.

Billy, if you are letting Grandad control everything, then, yes, the tutoring may have gone too far. It's not tutoring, but more like "Operation Varsity Blues" where you are hiring someone to take the test for you. Personally, based on what I am observing, I don't think that's happening. This still looks like a billy run team. But let's clear the air and put the petty arguments to rest.


To clear the air, am only helping Billy till end of pre-season, everything done on his roster moves and play selection has been by my advice. He has made some decisions on his own. Am giving him an outline to work with and learn from, hopefully it will help and prevent having a team perform worse than if the Ai was managing it.

Re: All In Trades

By Waitwut
11/04/2021 2:44 pm
billyvan1989 wrote:
norm wrote:
OK folks, let's tone things down here.

Let's keep it simple: billy, just confirm that you are running your team and not letting Grandad log in and run the show. Then the story is over. Shadow Dancers should not make wild unsubstantiated accusations.

Billy, if you are letting Grandad control everything, then, yes, the tutoring may have gone too far. It's not tutoring, but more like "Operation Varsity Blues" where you are hiring someone to take the test for you. Personally, based on what I am observing, I don't think that's happening. This still looks like a billy run team. But let's clear the air and put the petty arguments to rest.


To clear the air, am only helping Billy till end of pre-season, everything done on his roster moves and play selection has been by my advice. He has made some decisions on his own. Am giving him an outline to work with and learn from, hopefully it will help and prevent having a team perform worse than if the Ai was managing it.


Who... how.... wait, wut?

Re: All In Trades

By mlowe
11/04/2021 2:53 pm
Did GDB just say he wasn't running billy's account, FROM billy's account? Am I missing something? :O

Re: All In Trades

By norm - League Admin
11/04/2021 3:36 pm
Well... I think we got our answer as to whether Grandad is actually logging into billy's account.

OK, let's make it clear that teams should be running independently of one another. No collusion please, or even the appearance of collusion. And nothing is more "appearance of collusion" than one owner running two teams. The preseason is over, so we have to ask for this to stop. Feel free to give billy all the help and advice you want, but billy has to succeed or fail on his own. Even with the best of intentions, we can't have folks making accusations that there is insider info exchanged an so on.

And billy, why even play if you don't take the time to run your own team?

Also, as the old adage goes about giving a man a fish/teaching a man to fish, I don't know how you learn anything from having someone else do all the work.

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/04/2021 6:17 pm
If you haven’t notice I did learned and observed how GDB setup his strategies, game planning and his running style. I am only studying his running style formation. So relax and chill peoples. I am still the old billy.

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/04/2021 6:37 pm
So you telling me the past 15 seasons your guys trying to give me advices and how that working out? Compare to GDB who personally supporting, guides me in the right direction and actually teach me instead belittle me, taking advantage of me, and your guys already know all my old strategy and tactic to a point that you don’t need to put in effort to beat me in game match. So with these new strategy’s, run formation, and tactics I learned from GDB I vowed to kick every owners *** included my own mentor GDB every season.
Last edited at 11/04/2021 6:38 pm

Re: All In Trades

By norm - League Admin
11/04/2021 7:39 pm
billyvan1989 wrote:
So you telling me the past 15 seasons your guys trying to give me advices and how that working out? Compare to GDB who personally supporting, guides me in the right direction and actually teach me instead belittle me, taking advantage of me, and your guys already know all my old strategy and tactic to a point that you don’t need to put in effort to beat me in game match. So with these new strategy’s, run formation, and tactics I learned from GDB I vowed to kick every owners *** included my own mentor GDB every season.


So you are saying your 15 losing seasons are all our fault! If only we had been better at helping you, the Phoenix would have dominated! Yes, Billy it is true. I actively did not help you win and instead I selfishly worked on trying to win myself. I will take the blame. I did not help you win and all the other league owners were selfish too, trying to win championships, when we all should have been doing everything we can to get you across to championship line! Go ahead and beat us down and show us who is boss!