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Re: All In Trades

By IoanBlood
11/05/2021 8:20 am
billyvan1989 wrote:
IoanBlood wrote:
billyvan1989 wrote:
So you telling me the past 15 seasons your guys trying to give me advices and how that working out? Compare to GDB who personally supporting, guides me in the right direction and actually teach me instead belittle me, taking advantage of me, and your guys already know all my old strategy and tactic to a point that you don’t need to put in effort to beat me in game match. So with these new strategy’s, run formation, and tactics I learned from GDB I vowed to kick every owners *** included my own mentor GDB every season.


Actually that is my writing Loan. It is the Old Billy writing and remember I am a politician. Writing in sophicated language is part of billy way.
Again not billyvan's writing. He never was so correct in grammar and wording.


I reapeat my allegation. Billy never called me Loan. In that way he was always correct calling me Ioan (i like Iowa).

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/05/2021 9:27 am
Then only me know. I love Brian treeple my first qb and Todd sather.

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/05/2021 9:28 am
I remember you use Todd sather to beat me when you first join the afc south.

Re: All In Trades

By kursetheday
11/05/2021 11:03 am
IoanBlood wrote:
billyvan1989 wrote:
IoanBlood wrote:
billyvan1989 wrote:
So you telling me the past 15 seasons your guys trying to give me advices and how that working out? Compare to GDB who personally supporting, guides me in the right direction and actually teach me instead belittle me, taking advantage of me, and your guys already know all my old strategy and tactic to a point that you don’t need to put in effort to beat me in game match. So with these new strategy’s, run formation, and tactics I learned from GDB I vowed to kick every owners *** included my own mentor GDB every season.


Actually that is my writing Loan. It is the Old Billy writing and remember I am a politician. Writing in sophicated language is part of billy way.
Again not billyvan's writing. He never was so correct in grammar and wording.


I reapeat my allegation. Billy never called me Loan. In that way he was always correct calling me Ioan (i like Iowa).



billy also called Clifford Harshaw seven different names. That's why we have Coif Jenshaw.

However, if GDB has signed in under billy to make it easier to alter game-planning and such, that's enough for me to say "Goodbye" to both. That's not coaching up. It's playing for him.
Last edited at 11/05/2021 11:03 am

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/05/2021 12:26 pm
Shoot I didn’t notice I capital your name. lol

Re: All In Trades

By billyvan1989
11/05/2021 12:28 pm
FYI password already changed and he don’t even allowed to come in my account.

Re: All In Trades

By kursetheday
11/05/2021 12:47 pm
billyvan1989 wrote:
FYI password already changed and he don’t even allowed to come in my account.


But he was in your account and most likely greatly altered your game-planning, set rules, or changed your overrides.

It doesn't matter that he doesn't have access anymore. The damage is done. Your reputation is beyond tainted. You're tainted.

Re: All In Trades

By GrandadB
11/05/2021 5:42 pm
Waitwut wrote:
That fine. And that fine.

He is yours. I tried a long time ago to get him back, not recently. He is very much an afterthought now. Enjoi!

My main point was to identify what "continual" meant and I wanted to check myself. I'm still waiting to see it. Right now looks like we are just talking about the bad trade you helped create, and the uproar that you have become.

Funny thing, I'm not sure you're nearly as aware of the conversations going on as almost anyone in this league. Though basically this whole offseason has been about you, and GDB trying to vindicate one really bad trade on your behalf. I got a suspicion that you played a hand in formulating the trade GDB refers to a continual (though it is singular) GDB busy trying to make Xero look like a bad guy who just ripped Billy off, Billy to oblivious/ashamed to let GDB know that he was okay with this trade. GDB wants to selectively police Billy like big brother.

It all stinks. Ethically it is unbalanced because GDB does not police every trade or new/struggling player the same. Why Billy so special even though he is blatant about his bad moves and other MFN decisions (gameplanning, depth chart, FA, cap control)? Is it because he let's you log into his account? Billy lacks so much knowledge, it seems very unlikely that without direct vision of what is going on with Billy's team GDB would be able to provide much more than pointers. Can't see offers, can't see plays, can't see Misc gameplanninh setup. Is GDB honestly going line by line, screen by screen coding Billy without actually seeing what Billy currently has going on. This is just getting equally as sketchy as a bad trade.


What was done to Billy's roster and play selection is the same that I have given to over 30 others in MFN when I do a roster review and game plan advice, including a couple that are currently in this league. I have no idea whether or not Xero was intentionally exploiting Billy or not on the trade for the 2 first rounders, one already a 1.1 As Norm mentioned, for 4 defensive starters with a 2-3 season effective life span. My beef was with the trade itself and hopefully will help to prevent the same from occuring again with more alert review. As far as Billy goes, I found him to be enthusiastic and wanting to improve his game. One of the reasons that I do that, along with others, is to help prevent discouragement caused by continual losing seasons. I appreciate those that are into this game, take the time to post in the forum (as Billy does), and try to help anyway that I can. I also pass on links to threads that are helpful, some just dont understand the information sometimes. Everything that Ive learned, other than through actual play experience, has been through review and research of stats, game logs, rosters, and threads on the various aspects of the game. I know that not everyone has the same amount of time to devote to playing, which is why I dont mind helping and saving a person the time to do so.

Re: All In Trades

By mlowe
11/05/2021 5:54 pm
Giving advice <> telling him what to do/doing it for him

Re: All In Trades

By norm - League Admin
11/05/2021 5:56 pm
GrandadB wrote:
Waitwut wrote:
That fine. And that fine.

He is yours. I tried a long time ago to get him back, not recently. He is very much an afterthought now. Enjoi!

My main point was to identify what "continual" meant and I wanted to check myself. I'm still waiting to see it. Right now looks like we are just talking about the bad trade you helped create, and the uproar that you have become.

Funny thing, I'm not sure you're nearly as aware of the conversations going on as almost anyone in this league. Though basically this whole offseason has been about you, and GDB trying to vindicate one really bad trade on your behalf. I got a suspicion that you played a hand in formulating the trade GDB refers to a continual (though it is singular) GDB busy trying to make Xero look like a bad guy who just ripped Billy off, Billy to oblivious/ashamed to let GDB know that he was okay with this trade. GDB wants to selectively police Billy like big brother.

It all stinks. Ethically it is unbalanced because GDB does not police every trade or new/struggling player the same. Why Billy so special even though he is blatant about his bad moves and other MFN decisions (gameplanning, depth chart, FA, cap control)? Is it because he let's you log into his account? Billy lacks so much knowledge, it seems very unlikely that without direct vision of what is going on with Billy's team GDB would be able to provide much more than pointers. Can't see offers, can't see plays, can't see Misc gameplanninh setup. Is GDB honestly going line by line, screen by screen coding Billy without actually seeing what Billy currently has going on. This is just getting equally as sketchy as a bad trade.


What was done to Billy's roster and play selection is the same that I have given to over 30 others in MFN when I do a roster review and game plan advice, including a couple that are currently in this league. I have no idea whether or not Xero was intentionally exploiting Billy or not on the trade for the 2 first rounders, one already a 1.1 As Norm mentioned, for 4 defensive starters with a 2-3 season effective life span. My beef was with the trade itself and hopefully will help to prevent the same from occuring again with more alert review. As far as Billy goes, I found him to be enthusiastic and wanting to improve his game. One of the reasons that I do that, along with others, is to help prevent discouragement caused by continual losing seasons. I appreciate those that are into this game, take the time to post in the forum (as Billy does), and try to help anyway that I can. I also pass on links to threads that are helpful, some just dont understand the information sometimes. Everything that Ive learned, other than through actual play experience, has been through review and research of stats, game logs, rosters, and threads on the various aspects of the game. I know that not everyone has the same amount of time to devote to playing, which is why I dont mind helping and saving a person the time to do so.


If there's one thing we know about billy, it's that he is never discouraged by losing seasons. He revels in it. He celebrated going 0-16. Look at his all time record. If he were discouraged by losing, he would have been gone long ago because in his many seasons around here, there hasn't been much winning. I'll give billy credit for this: he's good at handling losing - all that experience has paid off!